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In lieu of a Horodenka blog, I’ll post messages from Horodenka researchers here to share with other researchers. Hopefully this will help us all with our family research. Be sure to also look at the People Pictures web page on this site. --Mark Heckman Hi Mark, Hope this message finds you well. To underscore the importance of your role as webmaster for the Gorodenka shtetlink, I want to share with you a nice development in my research. Last week I received an e-mail from a stranger who, while surfing the net, saw the Schor/Sonnenblum photos at the Gorodenka website. He wanted to know if I was the person who had posted them. I told him "yes" (thanks to you!) and after a series of messages, it became apparent that I had found some of my mother's missing second cousins. This anecdote demonstrates the power of the internet in genealogical terms; after all, those pictures have been online for more than a decade. I never anticipated that they would yield new relatives so many years later! In turn, these cousins have been able to supply some images of ancestors I'd never seen. What a nice holiday gift! Thanks so much for your shtetl leadership. Have a wonderful Chanukah and 2010... Deborah Dworski My husband and his family (Aaron Shatzberger, brother to Eli, Meir, Natan, (Nutu), Esther and Gitle Shatzberger originally from Horendenka). We are looking for anyone who knew the Shatzberger family, that may still be alive. We have a group of people from Horendenka here. One is Koka Greif and another is Tosia Schnieder who lives in the states. Koka was a little younger than my father-in-law of blessed memory and has already shared all of her stories. Another thing, my husband's grandfather, Yishayahu Shatzberger of blessed memory was a famous rabbi in Horendenka, but supposedly he past away @ 1930 before anything really started. If anyone knows about the Shatzberger family or the Witz family from Cristentenople, we would like this information. Toda, toda! Keilah I have an interesting story for you. Listed is the memorial book as killed are Heinach Kimel and his family. Heinach was my great uncle, one of the sons of my great-grandfather by his second wife (my grandfather was from the first wife). Berl, also listed as killed, was Heinach's brother. Vove, also listed, I do not know, but must have been a relative. Heinach and his wife Bertha actually survived the war. They hid for two years in a cellar, and after the war came to Lynn, Massachusetts, where my grandfather lived. Heinach and Beryl had a daughter, Helena, in the cellar. Heinach lived in Lynn until Bertha died (in old age). Heinach then fuflfilled his dream and moved, with Helena, to Israel, where he died. Helena married and now lives in Paris. Heinach told of seeing, through the cellar window, his brother Berl and his family led off by the Germans. I am the pseudo-geneologist of our family and would greatly appreciate leads to more information about Horodenka. Best regards, Bob Kimmel Hi Mark, My mother told me that when she came to America, in 1949, the father of Ed Koch was part of a contingent from the First Horodenker Sick and Benevolent Society who came to see her at the HIAS, They gave her some money to help her get an apartment. Then the elder Mr. Koch took her aside and gave her an additional envelope filled with cash ($50 or so). Elke Savoy Hello Mark, Dear Mark; I have been researching my husband's family and thank you for your efforts. You ask for corrections. The entry: ALPERT [pasekh alef-lamed-ayen-fey(pey?)-resh-tes (A misprint?)], Dr. Adolf and his son Mundek (Zigmund). Should read ALFERT, Dr. Adolf (attorney) and his son, Mundek (Zigmund or Sigmund) Alfert Dr. Alfert's daughter and Sigmund's sister is my mother-in-law: Renate Alfert Weisinger. Her mother's story (Shaindel (Sophie) Alpert-Yungerman) is in the memorial book, Sefer Horodenka. Her name actually should read: Sophie Yungerman Alfert. Renate and Sophie emigrated to New York City with Renate's two young sons after the war. Renate is adamant that the correct spelling of her maiden name is ALFERT (It was changed from Eilfort when they emigrated from Vienna, Austria.) Sincerely, Mimi Weisinger Hi Mark, A quick note. Please forward to whoever you would like. Having a great time. Its Saturday afternoon and I am Kiev. I was in Horodenka on Monday. 1. We had great luck. Our first stop was City Hall. The mayor suggested the naes of a couple of old people who would remember the old street names and families. He also gave us the name of Ed Rosenbaum, a Jewish guy who is from Horodenka, but moved to Israel. He spends the summer in Horodenka. More about him later. 2. The mayor had no info or maps. All of the historical documents were taken. Possesing maps was illegal under the Commies. The local archives or ZACKS would be unlikely to have any Jewish records. (We checked and there were none.) 3. We went to speak to an old man. He wasn't any help, (none of the old people in Horodenka were of help, though they tried and were very nice.)but all of a sudden a man said in Hebrew, "Do you speak Hebrew?" It was Ed Rosenbaum. He spoke only Ukrainian and Hebrew, but that was not a problem. ed took us to the synagogue, Hebrew School building, cemetary, and mass murder site. --the synagogue building still stands as you know from previous visitors. It is in good shape as it is used as a rec hall for the town. The door was locked to what had been the sanctuary. ---The hebrew School building is used as a theater. we didn't go in. --The cemetery looks as it does in previous photos. There were animals grazing there, but to tell you the truth it keeps the place from becoming even more overgrown. The Snyatyn cemetery which I visited the next day was like a forest. I spoke to Meylach Shoychet about the cemetery. He said that he just completed a 10 year project in Kolomeya to get protection for the cem. there. First it must be surveyed and properly delineated. Then an application for change of land use status must be made. Then it would be possible to go in, clean up and record the insriptions. I've got my own ideas regarding a cemetery project.... ----mass murder site. There were shootings both at the cemetery and at a remote site quite away from town. There were three separate executions periods and those remained for the most part went to Belzed. The spot is by the Dneister river. A marker was put up some years ago. A large Waldorf School summer retreat center is immediately adjacent to the site. 4. Ed invited us to spend the night with him, so we took him up on his offer. It was great to sleep in Horodenka. It had been almost 60 years since a Friedman visited or slept in Horodenka. 5. On Tues. I went with Ed to the market. It had been the site of the ghetto which as you know was a regional staging area. It was a short block from the synagogue. After breakfast we went to Jasienow. 6. Jasienow was great. We spoke to a number of old people. They all remembered my greatgrandfather, my grandfather's brother and his wife. Apparently my granduncle was quite popular and all the old people who we spoke to in different locations became animated and happy at the mention of his name. One man mentioned that he had served with him in the Austrian army during WWI in a unit from Chernowitz. They saw action in Italy. We found the site of my greatgrandfather's house. Later in the afternoon, the woman who lives in the new house invited us in for vodka and a snack. She gave us an embroidered table cloth as a gift. She was quite nice and interested in hearing about our family. Anorther neighbor also had many kind words to say. There is much more. I have written journal entries, video and photos as well. It was well worth the trip. After Jasienow we went to Snyatyn and spent the night in Chenowitz. In Snyatyn we visited with the mayor and were shown around by his deputy and the chief of police. 7. Wed. we found my grandmother's village of Tulewa. It was about the size of a Wal-Mart Super Center. We spoke to a young woman who told us that after the war the Soviets moved all of the inhabitants (the Jews were dead.) to Kazakstan. Her grandparents were among them. She also didn't know of a Jewish cemetery. We stopped by the archives in Ivano-Frankivsk. They had some documents for us, but I don't think they are unknown in general. I'll show you the list when I return. This letter is getting long and I am getting hungry so I will sign off. More to come later. Matt Friedman mlfriedman@yahoo.com August 5, 2000 I don't see the names of my family on the list of Jews murdered in Dear Mark Benito Ladenheim |
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