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Debbie Raff, Genealogy

Surnames: MEISNER / KATZ /RAFF / SICHERMAN/ MEISNER/ KATZ / FISH / GRUNSPANN / GREENSPAN / EICHNER / ZWICK / HILLER from Zmigród Nowy / Bukowsko / Dukla / Dynow / Korczyna, Poland

Great-Great Grandparents: Aron and Itte KATZ, who were day laborers in Korczyna. They had at least one child. Her name was Chaje (Chaya) Sara and she was my great-grandmother. Raff family

The Raffs: (standing) Ida Raff Frankel (my aunt), Isaac Raff (my uncle), with Yetta Meisner Raff (my grandmother) holding Israel "James" Raff (my wonderful dad!)

Great Grandparents: Chaje (Chaya) Sara KATZ marries Israel MEISNER. Israel MEISNER is a shochet and mohel. His name is listed in the Zmigród Nowy Birth Records, as a mohel for over 2 decades. His son, Lipa, appears to take over this occupation and is also listed in the records as a mohel. Chaje Sara and Israel have 10 children, including one set of twins.

  1. Benjamin Wolf marries Jetti "Yetta" KATZ and they have 2 children, Celia and Aaron "Al".
  2. Ester marries Naftali Hersch HILLER and they have 2 children, Abraham Aron and Izrael.
  3. Lipa (born 15 August 1871; marries twice - 1st wife Rajsel and 2nd wife Sara GALLER); Lipa becomes a mohel.
  4. Ides (born 12 October 1876) marries Abraham Rafael GREENSPAN and they have one child Chaim "Harry". Harry (1896-1973) is raised by his grandparents upon the death of his mother, Ideas. He marries Minnie GELLER and they have one daughter, Edith.
  5. Chajem (born 26 May 1879/died 28 October 1880)
  6. Yitela "Yetta" (born 8 September 1880 / died 20 September 1962 ) marries Jacob Zev "Wolf" RAFF, a watchmaker from Bukowsko. They live in Zmigród Nowy and have 3 children (Ida, Ike, and Israel "James"). James was my father. He was surprised to find out that his mother had been a twin.
  7. Cyrel (born 8 September 1880)
  8. Samuel (born 28 July 1883/died 29 March 1883)
  9. Rachel (born 15 August 1885)
  10. Reisel (born 8 June 1889)

Grandparents: Yittela "Yetta" MEISNER (1880-1962) marries Jakob Zev"Wolf" RAFF (born 21 August 1886/died 17 January 1982), the son of Yehoshua (Osias) RAFF and Necha SICHERMAN. An Osias RAFF (watchmaker) is listed in the "1891 Galician Business Directory". "Wolf" immigrates to New York (USA) in 1922 and is followed in 1928 by his wife, "Yetta" and their 3 children. "Wolf" owns a small jewelry store on the Lower East Side of NY for over 50 years and becomes an active member of the Brezower Landsmanshaft. The children are:

James was my wonderful dad. He moved from Poland to New York at the tender age of 6. He served in the U.S. Army in WWII, was an active member of the Jewish War Veterans and a volunteer coordinator for his local police department, until his recent death. He practiced his Yiddish by translating some stories from the Sanok Yizkor Book for JewishGen. My uncles and my father worked in the jewelry business, which seems to go back at least 3 generations in my family. James, Miriam and their 2 daughters, Deborah "Debbie" (that's me) and Nedda moved to California in 1959.

The Records of the nearby town of Dukla mention the surname MEISNER many times. I do not know my connection to those families at this time.

For More Information, email Debbie Raff, Calif.


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Ken Keller: Genealogy

I am attempting to find out the fate of my ggf Hershel (Zvi Hersh) Keller, who lived in Dukla with one of his daughters and was in his 80's when the Nazis arrived there. Nothing further is known about him. We may be related to Kellers in Rzeszow, which is only a short distance north of Dukla and the town (Tyzycn) where my grandmother, Bertha Saltzman Keller, was born. Your web page includes the birth record of a Keile Keller in 1867. My ggm's maiden name was Geldzeller or Geldzeiler.Her children included Fanny, Joe, Paul (my gf b 1882), Louis, sister (name unknown who remained in Dukla possibly Keile?).

Hersh Keller sold horses to the Polish cavalry. In 1905, he came to the U.S. to attend my gps' wedding in the Lower East Side of NYC, but returned to Dukla because he thought "NYC wasn't Jewish enough." Once the war started, contact was lost.

I also heard from Marcel Keller who lives in Bensonhurst Brooklyn). He was a young boy in Dukla when the Germans rounded up his family; his gf Hersch Keller, perished in the camps and he was one of the very few survivors. I obtained a copy of his family tree, which goes back almost 300 years. I really appreciate your continuing interest and pursuing this subject with me!

For additional information, please email Ken Keller, Virginia

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Phyllis Kramer: Genealogy

Leib Stecher

Great Grandfather: LEIB STECHER (b~1858)

married Golda Trachman circa 1879 in Zmigród. Some of the Trachman/Trachmann clan lived in nearby Dukla.

Leib and Golda Stecher had 14 children

  • One daughter,Malka (b~1881 m Josef KORNREICH ~1900) settled in RYMANOW, Her children, born in Rymanow, included Schmiel 1901; Moishe 1903; Zlater 1905, Avi 1908; Mayer 1910 and Golda 1912. Mayer lives in Daytona Beach, Florida. Bernard Stecker
  • One son, Hersch Badish (born 2/14/96, emigrated 1914 NYC) and pictured on the right, married Ester Guterman from Philadelphia and Lillie GEIGER (a distant cousin) from DUKLA..

    Golda Trachman's siblings emigrated to the US and settled in Chicago and Joliet, Illinois: Morris Isser Trachman (1865-1932), Sam Trachman (4/69-6/43), Sarah Trachman (10/69-5/34, married Samuel Kroon), Yetta Trachman (married Aaron Schacker), Jenny Trachman (married Herbst and Wolf), and Lillie Trachman (married Rauce).

    Other Trachman cousins from Dukla emigrated to NYC and included Esther Trachman (born 1876, married Abe GEIGER), JACOB TRACHMAN (1867-1938, married first Leah and then her sister HANNA SOLOMON, was a grocer), Fichu Trachman (married Pacher of the Brooklyn supermarkets).........

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    Fred van Vliet, The Netherlands, Genealogy

    My family came from Zmigrod Nowy near Jaslo. My father Saloman was born in Dukla, my mother Rachel in Brody, about  The Schachners 100-km east from Przemysl. What I want to know is: did my father have any brothers or sisters??

    For more information, email Alfred Van Vliet, The Netherlands

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    SCHEINERS from Dukla

    by Chaim Greenberger Chaim wrote: My great great grandfather was Menachem Yehoshua ben Yaacov SCHEINER. He died the 21st of Adar 1898; his two sons were Mordechai Yehuda and Avraham Yosef Melamed. They moved to seben-sibiu; his daughters were Chana Gittel who married RUBINFELD and Faige Henna who married MARCH; she stayed in Dukla.

    For more information, email Chaim Greenberger 

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    Margulies and Treff Family

    MARGULIES & TREFF from Dukla

    March 2019

    Robert Margulies emailed "I was forwarded a copy of your Jewish Gen KehilaLinks about Dukla, by a dear cousin, (Ida Langsam) whose family is also from Dukla. My grandparents Rosa and Wolf Margulies(I was informed) were born (or lived) in Dukla. Rosa was part of a larger Treff family. I believe they all moved to Berlin, where my father was born (in 1927). Your document lists my grandmother (Margulies, Rosa née Treff) in the 1939 Germany listing.

    In interesting events 10 little Treff kids were put on train shortly after Kristallnacht to Holland. Some of the other Treff kids survived in other ways and some kids were captured and didn’t survive. My father was then ‘taken’ to England where he stayed during war- then to US. After Kristallnacht my grandparents were deported back to Dukla and I have a photograph of them in Dukla shortly before they were murdered. (it’s actually a very poised and nice photo, under the circumstances).

    This is a birth certificate of my grandmother, born in Dukla: Rosa (Reisel) Treff. Born may 14 1898 in Dukla Poland." Margulies Family

    Editor's notes: the birth certificate is written in German. I sent it up to Tracing the Tribe on Facebook and to JewishGen's viewmate to get it translated.


    Also note that in the 1500 vital records our researcher found for Nowy Zmigrod and Dukla, Dwora Treff was a midwife in Dukla from 1915 through 1923. Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRI-Pl) has some vital records indexes online.

    Ida Langsom emailed in 2013; she said "My pgf came from Dukla, and his wife from Sanock - or the other way around...I never met my grandfather, Moishe Shlomo who was killed in the Holocaust - but I do have photos of him from my parents' wedding in Berlin in 1937." (editors note: i made up this simple tree for Robert and Ida: Osias (Yehoshua Zev) and Miriam TREFF